Pastoral ministry requires a certain amount of grit. My guest in this episode has plenty. I am speaking with my dear friend, Justin Perry. Justin is the Senior Pastor of the First Baptist Church of Viburnum, Missouri, where he lives with his sweet wife, Jennifer, and their two children. When I began serving a church in St Louis in 2007 as Pastor, I asked Justin to serve as Youth Pastor there, and he did a fantastic job. We had an absolute blast working on staff together, and then he headed off to seminary and then to Viburnum, where he has been since 2012. Be sure to like the podcast and leave a review!

Do you want to hear a story of pastoral perseverance and determination? Listen to my podcast, where I speak with my good friend, Ryan Gold, Lead Pastor of New Covenant Community Church in Highlands Ranch (Denver), Colorado. Ryan and I have been friends for over 20 years. We attended Moody together, served on Student Council, and have endured many challenging ministry moments together. Hear his story of faithfulness as he shares his journey through the highs and lows of life in ministry. Enjoy the conversation, and please leave a rating or review for the podcast!

In season 2, episode 4 of The Minister's Ordinary Conversation, I get to speak with my good friend, Ben Leonard. Ben is the senior pastor of the first Baptist church of Cabool in Cabool, Missouri. I have known Ben for over 20 years, and we share many stories from our ministry experiences in this episode. Enjoy the conversation, and please leave a rating or review for the podcast!

In season 2, episode 3, I get to speak with a dear friend, mentor, fellow-pastor, church planter, incredible husband and father, and fellow Cardinal fan, Mike Hubbard. Mike is the Senior Pastor of Genesis Church in Eureka, Missouri, a church he planted along with several members of my home church, Ballwin Baptist. There, he served as youth pastor for my wife and I, officiated our wedding, and has had a profound influence on us for over 30 years. Enjoy the conversation, and please leave a rating or review for the podcast!